Bill
Leggett: Your new novel, Forgetfulness,
explores events and feelings after 9/11. Was this a topic you wanted
to write about, or was it simply impossible not to write about
it so soon after the event?
Ward
Just: It was necessary to write about 9/11
and the war in Iraq but from a particular angle of vision. Hence
a love story set in the south of France, where these events are
felt as ripples: the drizzle of the day’s news. Then Thomas
Railles’s life is affected most profoundly, posing the question:
What is to be done? Always realizing, as Thomas does, that his
own life has not been blameless.
BL: Forgetfulness references unexpected
tragedies, including 9/11 and President Kennedy’s murder.
How would you compare these two events in their effect on the American
psyche?
WJ: After JFK, America was plunged into mourning.
After 9/11, America was plunged into horror and a kind of necessary
anger. I think Kennedy’s assassination was an awful psychic
blow—not an end to American innocence (America has not been
innocent since at least the Civil War) but a sudden appreciation
of the awful randomness of events. Grief came to the table and
stayed there. The effects of 9/11 will be with us for many decades.
The ordinary processes of life have changed utterly, matters such
as travel, surveillance of our personal lives, and an atmosphere
of apprehension: Where will it happen next?
BL: What drew you to Paris as a part-time
home?
WJ: The light, the air, the ambiance, the food,
the drink, the laughter. And you can smoke in restaurants. People’s
houses, even. The French are libertarian in spirit.
BL: Any change in the way the French view
the Americans as a result of US foreign policy?
WJ: The French have not changed. American foreign
policy has changed. But they tend to take the long view. Sooner
or later the Bush administration will be gone. And, they hope,
the brutishness with it. A restoration, in other words, of concern
for “the decent opinion of mankind.” Not that the French
ever cared overmuch.
BL: Forgetfulness gives vivid detail of an
interrogation. Have you ever witnessed one? If not, did you research
interrogations or imagine how they are conducted?
WJ: Never saw one. I did not research for the
long scene in Forgetfulness. It’s an imagined encounter.
BL: The novel contains the line “…all
novels are to some degree autobiographical.” To what degree
is Forgetfulness autobiographical?
WJ: I
think that line goes on to observe that the trouble is knowing
which parts are autobiographical. This is harder than you might
think. Imagine a passage worked and reworked a dozen times. What
remains? Fiction remains.
BL: In the book, your character Thomas is
told by his wife that he will always have his art, and maybe that
thing is so large it crowds people out. Is this true of authors
as well? Does the love of writing crowd out people and parts of
your life?
WJ: Writing is not particularly hard work. Farming,
commercial fishing out of New Bedford, Massachusetts, and soldiering—that’s
hard work. But it does take a certain emotional toll and does tend
to attract obsessive personalities. Trouble is, the process is
so mysterious that it’s bootless to talk about. That tends
to exclude people. Fortunately, most people—even the nearest
and dearest—are utterly uninterested in this process. Lucky
for them. Lucky for you.
BL: When writing your novels, do you do much
outside reading?
WJ: I always have an open book in my office,
the living room, and the bedroom.
BL: I have heard from many writers that they
have an unpublished novel in their desk drawer, either because
they couldn’t make it work to their satisfaction or it was
too personal. Do you have one of these?
WJ: None, alas.
BL: What’s next?
WJ: A novel. And in two years, it will be done
and then I’ll know what it’s about. |