| TF: My
initial impetus to write the book came from a need to understand the
issue. As I researched, and learned more about the Australian government’s
unprincipled policies on climate change, I became deeply ashamed and
angry. The anger probably helped give me the energy to pursue the writing,
but it had to be washed out of the final drafts because I wanted the
book to be an objective account of the topic.
JG: Leadership
in the U.S. Administration has asserted that it is spending
more money on climate change research than any other country
and that individual states are taking actions to mitigate
climate change. Do you think the U.S. is receiving the
proper recognition for these actions?
TF: It
doesn’t matter how much any country is spending on
programs. What really matters is how much it’s reducing
its emissions. And here the American government and people
are failing badly. Emissions are growing substantially
just at the time most of the world is making genuine efforts
to restrict them.
JG: You
open the book by introducing John Lovelock’s Gaia
hypothesis: that the earth is a “single, planet-sized
organism” and that the atmosphere could be thought
of as fur or feathers that help regulate temperature. Do
you think the Gaia metaphor helps people identify with
the problems posed by climate change?
TF: The
Gaia metaphor certainly helped me to understand how Earth’s
incredibly complex climate system operates. It’s
something most of us would struggle to understand were
we to take the conventional scientific approach of studying
its component parts.
JG: Michael
Crichton’s book The State of Fear and the
movie The Day After Tomorrow are probably the
best known works of fiction relating to climate change.
What impact have they had, and is there a role for popular
media to play?
TF: State
of Fear has had a profoundly negative impact. The fact
that the American Society of Petroleum Geologists gave
Crichton their journalism award (for a work of fiction!)
and that he briefs President Bush on climate change, shows
you how the book is being used. The impact of The Day
After Tomorrow seems to have been substantially less.
I think that most viewers would have enjoyed it as an environmental
disaster movie.
JG: I
have sat in on Senate Energy Committee hearings on climate
change, and congressional leaders are constantly seeking
advice on solutions. Should scientists provide policy answers?
What role should scientists play in recommending policy?
TF: I
believe that scientists should contribute to the policy
debate. They may not have the whole answer, but any policy
developed in the absence of a firm grasp of the science
is bound to fail.
JG: Are
there other spokespeople you would like to see become more
vocal?
TF: In
the US and Australia there has been a profound failure
of leadership at the highest political level on climate
change. This means that we need governors, mayors, business
and church leaders and ordinary citizens to take up the
challenge. The basic message can be carried by all of these
people, but business people in particular need to become
more vocal.
JG: Your
book eloquently addresses the science behind climate change.
In fact, it is some of the best science writing I have
read. But some people would argue that continuing to debate
the certainty of climate science distracts from pursuing
the solutions. Do you feel we’re ready to move beyond
debates around science to debates regarding policy?
TF: The
science is now so solid that there is no significant scientific
debate about the adverse nature of human impacts on the
climate system. That means that the debate has shifted
from being a scientific to being moral in nature. And moral
issues concern us as individuals. In this case it prompts
us to ask what we should and could do as individuals and
members of society to reduce our emissions.
JG: You
write about an array of solutions to the problem of global
warming. Which seem to be the most promising?
TF: It
is clear that no single technology will provide “the
solution.” The easiest gains will be made through
greater efficiency. Selling a Toyota SUV and buying a Toyota
hybrid, for example, will cut your transport emissions
by 70%—the amount we need to reduce overall to stabilize
climate. On the technology side wind, solar, nuclear (especially
the smaller, safer nuclear plants), and geothermal energy
production will all contribute significantly. And of course
biofuels will contribute greatly to abating emissions from
transport.
JG: What
are the opportunities for restructuring energy systems/use?
Do you see a viable future for locally-generated or cooperatively-owned
energy?
TF: I
think there is a huge future for local energy generation.
I run my house from solar panels. European cities burn
biomass at small plants for energy. And in Denmark individuals
and communities own wind generation, which contributes
20% of the nation’s electricity. If the big energy
companies don’t move to act on this issue, they may
well find their customer base evaporating.
JG: Economics
has been called the “dismal science,” but certainly
destruction of natural systems that sustain life on this
planet is equally depressing to biologists and climatologists.
Are you ever overwhelmed by the magnitude of the challenges
in your field? If so, what do you do to counter balance
this?
TF: There
was a stage in the writing of the book when I did feel overwhelmed.
Then I realized that climate change stems from a simple air
pollution problem. And humans have long known how to fix
that. Now I’m just determined to win. After all, the
alternative is unthinkable. |